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Billy Clifford and who should we retain or release
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:02 pm    Post subject: Billy Clifford and who should we retain or release Reply with quote

I mentioned on the match day thread but it deserves its own thread. For me he is our most accomplished midfielder by a country mile. Most skillful, most mobile , most creative.

I think if he was in a decent team he would excel. No coincidence Collins and the team perform best when he is starting.

He makes mistakes but at least he is always free to take the ball and try something with better players he coulkd really kick on.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're going to sing his praises at least get his name right!!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you're going to sing his praises at least get his name right!!

Laughing Laughing

For a minute I thought it should have been in the 'Former Reds' thread.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too inconsistent
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Red, Red & Red wrote:
Too inconsistent


I agree. He should play every game.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Billy is capable of the killer pass but has had some shocking games as well. He gives the ball away a lot. A luxuary player I wonder if he would be better suited to higher standard. When we started a game early in the season with Banton, Roberts and Clifford I thought we were going to rip teams apart. Sadly the potential there but consistency not.

There are many where I sit that actually think his our worse player. I am not sure in such a physical league we can carry Cox and Clifford in the side.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I reckon him. Good player who gets unjustified grief.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He holds onto the ball too long before passing.

Think that was the best I've seen our midfield play for a while, although do think we are carrying Smith at the moment. He's been poor for a good few games now.

Kaby should be one of the first names on the sheet each week, never stops running, breaks up play. No coincidence they scored the winner after Kaby was taken off.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter wrote:
Paul wrote:
If you're going to sing his praises at least get his name right!!

Laughing Laughing

For a minute I thought it should have been in the 'Former Reds' thread.

Now I see. Thought this was the start of a Summer transfer thread!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul wrote:
He holds onto the ball too long before passing.

Think that was the best I've seen our midfield play for a while, although do think we are carrying Smith at the moment. He's been poor for a good few games now.

Kaby should be one of the first names on the sheet each week, never stops running, breaks up play. No coincidence they scored the winner after Kaby was taken off.
Put Smith at right back he hasn't the skill to be a midfielder.Everyone seems to love Young but he is just a makeshift fullback I'm sure he could do a better job further forward than the useless Enzio.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Billy Clifford. He can see a pass and he has a trick or two to get him out of trouble and the opposition into it.

When he tires in a match he starts to delay the pass and let's the opposition get to him and when we we let a goal in he goes looking for a killer pass every time he gets the ball. Sometimes I wish he would play the way he is facing more.

Yesterday he should have been subbed about ten minutes before he was. He was tired (he hasn't played a full game for a while) and the mistakes were creeping into his game.

I can make a case for nearly all our players to be re signed or kept in etc but that will mean we have the same squad as this season. Is that what people want?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ElTel wrote:
Paul wrote:
He holds onto the ball too long before passing.

Think that was the best I've seen our midfield play for a while, although do think we are carrying Smith at the moment. He's been poor for a good few games now.

Kaby should be one of the first names on the sheet each week, never stops running, breaks up play. No coincidence they scored the winner after Kaby was taken off.
Put Smith at right back he hasn't the skill to be a midfielder.Everyone seems to love Young but he is just a makeshift fullback I'm sure he could do a better job further forward than the useless Enzio.

So replace one makeshift RB with another one? Superb. You should take over as manager immediately Rolling Eyes
And if you think Enzio is useless. ......jeez. Out of form, yes. Useless? Behave yourself.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Billy Clifford simple not good enough.

Loses possession to easily, hasn't got the stamina for league football.


One of many to be ditched at the end of the season.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The issue with Enzio is that one decent game in 4 isn't what we need.

The defence needs an overhaul as well. Get in a decent LB and RB and some cover at CB. We will always be up against it gifting a goal a game.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clifford is very frustrating, he tries to play the Hollywood pass too often and gives the ball away too much. He needs to learn to play the simple pass and to keep hold of the ball better. Contrast him with Kaby, who is a technical player who plays the simple pass and who does the simple things well. I think Clifford has a lot of ability, but is lacking experience. A good coach and more experience and he can be a very good player. I think we should stick with him.
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