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Sussex Boy
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Fantasy land????
Good one!!!
Closing the borders might help ease the burden on the NHS. Maybe other public services too....because the current way ain't helping anything. |
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Ian
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| Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:02 pm Post subject:
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| Born in Crawley Hospital wrote: |
So, let's "close the borders" and cut off 50% of the NHS's recruitment stream? Fantastic!
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*and 50% of its workload.  |
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nemo
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| Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:53 pm Post subject:
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| Born in Crawley Hospital wrote: | | Sussex Boy wrote: | | We should just trigger article 50, close the borders and get out. |
This is so naïve it's untrue.
Close the borders?
Do you actually mean that?
Used an NHS service recently?
Just trigger Article 50?
Do you mean that?
What will post-EU UK look like? |
Forget the NHS what about the agribusiness and food processing sectors?!?! |
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Ian
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:26 pm Post subject:
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| nemo wrote: | | Born in Crawley Hospital wrote: | | Sussex Boy wrote: | | We should just trigger article 50, close the borders and get out. |
This is so naïve it's untrue.
Close the borders?
Do you actually mean that?
Used an NHS service recently?
Just trigger Article 50?
Do you mean that?
What will post-EU UK look like? |
Forget the NHS what about the agribusiness and food processing sectors?!?! |
Plenty of bone idle natives sitting around smoking weed all day that could do them jobs. They'd have no excuse and the rest of us wouldn't need to give them handouts anymore.
Though didn't he say close the borders? I didn't see him suggesting mass repatriation? Did I miss it? |
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Born in Crawley Hospital
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:23 pm Post subject:
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| Ian wrote: | | nemo wrote: | | Born in Crawley Hospital wrote: | | Sussex Boy wrote: | | We should just trigger article 50, close the borders and get out. |
This is so naïve it's untrue.
Close the borders?
Do you actually mean that?
Used an NHS service recently?
Just trigger Article 50?
Do you mean that?
What will post-EU UK look like? |
Forget the NHS what about the agribusiness and food processing sectors?!?! |
Plenty of bone idle natives sitting around smoking weed all day that could do them jobs. They'd have no excuse and the rest of us wouldn't need to give them handouts anymore.
Though didn't he say close the borders? I didn't see him suggesting mass repatriation? Did I miss it? |
He did say close the borders and not repatriation, correct.
But I said "recruitment stream", i.e. replacing that those that leave through natural workforce wastage. Seven years to train a doctor, innit.
Details, matey boy.
As for the "idle natives smoking weed" - I don't think they're going to be a doctor any time soon. |
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nemo
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:48 pm Post subject:
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| Ian wrote: | | nemo wrote: | | Born in Crawley Hospital wrote: | | Sussex Boy wrote: | | We should just trigger article 50, close the borders and get out. |
This is so naïve it's untrue.
Close the borders?
Do you actually mean that?
Used an NHS service recently?
Just trigger Article 50?
Do you mean that?
What will post-EU UK look like? |
Forget the NHS what about the agribusiness and food processing sectors?!?! |
Plenty of bone idle natives sitting around smoking weed all day that could do them jobs. They'd have no excuse and the rest of us wouldn't need to give them handouts anymore.
Though didn't he say close the borders? I didn't see him suggesting mass repatriation? Did I miss it? |
They're mainly agency workers who don't all hang around too long so mass repatriation isn't the issue. It's more a case of having a ready pool of employees. Getting brits to do the job ain't gonna work as we all know. Some scope to mechanise but unless we're talking about major contracts that'll be costly and guess where those costs will fall?! |
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Sussex Boy
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:01 pm Post subject:
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Agreed Ian......lots of people out there doing nothing that could be doing jobs.
The Government (no matter what party) should be doing anything and everything to encourage people to get into work and getting people into training for public sector and private sector jobs.... |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:09 pm Post subject:
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| Sussex Boy wrote: | Agreed Ian......lots of people out there doing nothing that could be doing jobs.
The Government (no matter what party) should be doing anything and everything to encourage people to get into work and getting people into training for public sector and private sector jobs.... |
I agree lazy Brits should be leant on more too to get them to work rather than sitting around (whilst of course providing support to those all really do need it as per the original ideal of the welfare state).
This all, of course, can be done within the framework of the European Union.
I don't care who is in the UK as long as they are working and they are paying tax. In other words, contributing. |
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Ian
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:14 pm Post subject:
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| Born in Crawley Hospital wrote: | | Ian wrote: | | nemo wrote: | | Born in Crawley Hospital wrote: | | Sussex Boy wrote: | | We should just trigger article 50, close the borders and get out. |
This is so naïve it's untrue.
Close the borders?
Do you actually mean that?
Used an NHS service recently?
Just trigger Article 50?
Do you mean that?
What will post-EU UK look like? |
Forget the NHS what about the agribusiness and food processing sectors?!?! |
Plenty of bone idle natives sitting around smoking weed all day that could do them jobs. They'd have no excuse and the rest of us wouldn't need to give them handouts anymore.
Though didn't he say close the borders? I didn't see him suggesting mass repatriation? Did I miss it? |
He did say close the borders and not repatriation, correct.
But I said "recruitment stream", i.e. replacing that those that leave through natural workforce wastage. Seven years to train a doctor, innit.
Details, matey boy.
As for the "idle natives smoking weed" - I don't think they're going to be a doctor any time soon. |
I know it's hard to believe BICH, as you're the centre of the universe and all that, but I wasn't replying to you. I was replying to Nemo and his comment about chicken stranglers, carrot pullers and strawberry pickers. That I quoted him should have been the clue. |
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Born in Crawley Hospital
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| Ian wrote: | | Born in Crawley Hospital wrote: | | Ian wrote: | | nemo wrote: | | Born in Crawley Hospital wrote: | | Sussex Boy wrote: | | We should just trigger article 50, close the borders and get out. |
This is so naïve it's untrue.
Close the borders?
Do you actually mean that?
Used an NHS service recently?
Just trigger Article 50?
Do you mean that?
What will post-EU UK look like? |
Forget the NHS what about the agribusiness and food processing sectors?!?! |
Plenty of bone idle natives sitting around smoking weed all day that could do them jobs. They'd have no excuse and the rest of us wouldn't need to give them handouts anymore.
Though didn't he say close the borders? I didn't see him suggesting mass repatriation? Did I miss it? |
He did say close the borders and not repatriation, correct.
But I said "recruitment stream", i.e. replacing that those that leave through natural workforce wastage. Seven years to train a doctor, innit.
Details, matey boy.
As for the "idle natives smoking weed" - I don't think they're going to be a doctor any time soon. |
I know it's hard to believe BICH, as you're the centre of the universe and all that, but I wasn't replying to you. I was replying to Nemo and his comment about chicken stranglers, carrot pullers and strawberry pickers. That I quoted him should have been the clue. |
You also quoted me, chummy.
But you're right about me being centre of the universe.
I give you 'gas giant' status. |
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Sussex Boy
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Yup......I welcome anyone who comes here like you say to contribute but numbers need to be decreased in my opinion.
And hopefully once we leave the WU can we then throw out the European Court of Human rights along with the scumbags (criminal etc) it protects ?? |
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| Sussex Boy wrote: | Yup......I welcome anyone who comes here like you say to contribute but numbers need to be decreased in my opinion.
And hopefully once we leave the WU can we then throw out the European Court of Human rights along with the scumbags (criminal etc) it protects ?? |
Sorry to disappoint you, but the European Court of Human Rights has NOTHING to do with the EU.
We're signatories to the European Convention of Human Rights which means we adhere to the European Court on Human Rights and this will not be changed by leaving the EU.
If this was a Brexit voting matter for you then you probably should have extended your research a tad. |
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nemo
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:02 pm Post subject:
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| Ian wrote: |
I know it's hard to believe BICH, as you're the centre of the universe and all that, but I wasn't replying to you. I was replying to Nemo and his comment about chicken stranglers, carrot pullers and strawberry pickers. That I quoted him should have been the clue. |
You missed the leaf placers. A food processing risk I visited recently actually had someone placing a piece of lettuce in a salad bowl and then another employee to 'tamp it all down' ready for someone else to add in carrot slices and so it went on.
All this could be mechanised at a cost but the employer said it wasn't worth doing for the size of the contract as employees were cheaper - that wont last post Brexit I can assure you - infact given the National Living Wage and the 5 year plan to rise this well in advance of inflation you can expect some major knock on effect on supermarket prices in the near future. |
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Sussex Boy
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:46 pm Post subject:
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| Sorry BICH......no it wasn't a voting matter. I was just generally asking the question....hence the '??' |
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thad
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| Sussex Boy wrote: | | Sorry BICH......no it wasn't a voting matter. I was just generally asking the question....hence the '??' |
Sussex Boy... this link might help to bring further clarity to the matter..
I love this segment...
| Quote: | | ...David Cameron was desperately trying to convince people he might opt for ‘Leave’ if he didn’t get the deal he was after. How handy, then, to be openly disparaging the European Convention on Something or Other. Granted, it had next to nothing to do with the European Union. But it was European and he was against it. The British Bill of Something or Other was British, however, and he was for that. |
..obviously from a rag in the liberal lefty media bubble... er... The Spectator! |
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