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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim Baker wrote:
I must admit to being in two minds about this appointment.

One, a non-league manager gets a step up to a major club. Recognition of a person who has done well at a lower level and promoting them.

Two, how can a failure at one level get a job at a higher level? Think about it. I'm no good as your workmate but get promoted to your boss!

Where do I find Thad's head scratching emotion?

Jim Baker


Here scratch

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

notso wrote:
Jim Baker wrote:
Where do I find Thad's head scratching emotion?


Here dontknow

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thad wrote:
notso wrote:
Jim Baker wrote:
Where do I find Thad's head scratching emotion?


Here dontknow

Wink


scratch


Dammit, you spotted the mistake just as I was correcting it!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thad wrote:
Leeds United are the new QPR.... the game always needs a bit of pantomime.



OOOHHHH NO it does n't .........
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin H wrote:
Brian Clough would be turning in his grave if he knew about this appointment.. !

44 days wasn't it ?


Have you seen the film, The Damned United about Brian Clough at Leeds.

Martin Sheen plays Cloughie. It's an excellent film.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maidenbower Millionaire wrote:
Martin H wrote:
Brian Clough would be turning in his grave if he knew about this appointment.. !

44 days wasn't it ?

Have you seen the film, The Damned United about Brian Clough at Leeds.

Martin Sheen plays Cloughie. It's an excellent film.

Or even Michael Sheen.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter wrote:
Maidenbower Millionaire wrote:
Martin H wrote:
Brian Clough would be turning in his grave if he knew about this appointment.. !

44 days wasn't it ?

Have you seen the film, The Damned United about Brian Clough at Leeds.

Martin Sheen plays Cloughie. It's an excellent film.

Or even Michael Sheen.


Very Happy

Big difference too.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maidenbower Millionaire wrote:
Martin H wrote:
Brian Clough would be turning in his grave if he knew about this appointment.. !

44 days wasn't it ?


Have you seen the film, The Damned United about Brian Clough at Leeds.

Martin Sheen plays Cloughie. It's an excellent film.

A polished performance by Mr. Sheen Wink

As usual truth is stranger than fiction... it is an excellent flick - and book - but they both only tell half the story, mainly from Cloughs perspective which is a black & white hero & villian tale.

It misleads by portraying LUFC players as a snarling gang intent on undermining Clough.. in reality they were more factional & divided in their allegiances.

In the much-maligned original book - Giles successfully won a court action against the author - one poignant part is a clandestine meeting in a city centre car park between Clough and Allan Clarke in which the forward backed him and told him that others did too... Clarke has always been fulsome in his public praise of Clough since and has never denied that the meeting occurred.... lets not forget that Clarke's brother, Frank, was also at LUFC at the time and would become one of Cloughs favourites at Forest.

The film also shows Giles & Bremner as ringleaders - Giles was Revies choice as successor - but again the truth is more complicated... Giles was offered & actually accepted the job... but then turned it down following a showdown with Bremner who had a hissy-fit at being overlooked.

The truth is that the pair were firm "allies" in removing Clough but were also locked in a bitter power-struggle to be the main man in the dressing room and manager-in-waiting.

I would have liked more balance with attention on the internal squabbles and more focus on the players as individuals rather than caricatures... but I guess the story editors had other priorities..?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thad wrote:
Clarke has always been fulsome in his public praise of Clough since and has never denied that the meeting occurred.... lets not forget that Clarke's brother, Frank, was also at LUFC at the time and would become one of Cloughs favourites at Forest.


That Frank CLARK was not Allan CLARKE's brother.

Allan did have a brother called Frank, a footballer, but he was never involved at Forest and neither Frank Clark/e was at Leeds.

The Frank at Leeds was Frank Gray (brother of Eddie) who did play for Forest under Clough.

Bit of journalistic license Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil T wrote:
Jim Baker wrote:
Two, how can a failure at one level get a job at a higher level? Think about it. I'm no good as your workmate but get promoted to your boss!


It used to be called the 'Civil Service'.....

To get rid of someone useless you promoted them, usually to another department!

Shocked


Cynical Phil, cynical! But sadly true in some cases! Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simon wrote:
thad wrote:
Clarke has always been fulsome in his public praise of Clough since and has never denied that the meeting occurred.... lets not forget that Clarke's brother, Frank, was also at LUFC at the time and would become one of Cloughs favourites at Forest.


That Frank CLARK was not Allan CLARKE's brother.

Allan did have a brother called Frank, a footballer, but he was never involved at Forest and neither Frank Clark/e was at Leeds.

The Frank at Leeds was Frank Gray (brother of Eddie) who did play for Forest under Clough.

Bit of journalistic license Wink

I've never let the facts get in the way of a good yarn Simon... getting a few brothers mixed-up is small fry to a Grauniad reader Embarassed

The film has a lot of "journalistic licence".... not least ignoring that Leeds and Derby had actually met in a league cup semi-final 1st leg ten days before the fateful "first" meeting in the FA Cup 3rd round... which supposedly set the tone for the animosity between the central characters.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leeds United... the gift that keeps on giving.... Headline Writers heaven...

Paddy Kenny dropped by Massimo Cellino because of unlucky birth date

Very Happy

And while you're laughing at the Elland Road pantomime, don't miss this beauty...

"Since Cellino's takeover they have embarked upon a cost-cutting exercise that has seen the canteen at their training ground closed down. Players have been forced to bring packed lunches and order in sandwiches."
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So who bet on him lasting 6 games? Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oakie wrote:
So who bet on him lasting 6 games? Laughing


I will Wink

But no more.....
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bad appointment but the guy running Leeds is a comedian.
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