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Billy Clifford and who should we retain or release
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TownMeadLeftover
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conor Clifford Rolling Eyes

*beep* at least change the thread title or do you enjoy looking like a dickhead
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still not sure if he's talking about Conor Henderson or Billy Clifford
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When he is not being a flash Harry he can be very good indeed (Billy don't be a hero)... but of our midfield players Kaby is tenacious and effective at his job and IMHO Jordan Roberts is the one who can open up a defence through the middle.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pedlar wrote:
Billy Clifford simple not good enough.

Loses possession to easily, hasn't got the stamina for league football.


One of many to be ditched at the end of the season.


there are times, not very often where he makes an amazing pass. but yes, as with many of our lot, possession is lost too easily. we simply aren't strong enough and clifford is a good example of that. as for how many to be ditched/sold, everyone and the manager, apart from morris collins connolly cox smith at the minute.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NorthgateRed wrote:
I'm still not sure if he's talking about Conor Henderson or Billy Clifford


The only similarity I can see is that Conor Clifford played in the same team as Billy Clifford after leaving Crawley?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rubyred wrote:
pedlar wrote:
Billy Clifford simple not good enough.

Loses possession to easily, hasn't got the stamina for league football.


One of many to be ditched at the end of the season.


there are times, not very often where he makes an amazing pass. but yes, as with many of our lot, possession is lost too easily. we simply aren't strong enough and clifford is a good example of that. as for how many to be ditched/sold, everyone and the manager, apart from morris collins connolly cox smith at the minute.


you wouldn't keep McNerney then? other than adding him to your list i think you are right with regards who we keep maybe Payne or Roberts if they can prove their fitness as we dont want another Matt Harrold situation
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of the squad already have contracts for next season !

I would release all of the below the rest are already signed up other than Clifford who we should certainly retain.

Harold - two years injured
Payne - not fit or mobile enough aka Walton mark 2
Roberts - made of glass
Bantom - I am not sure he has even played for his loan club.
Henderson - 25 if he was going to fulfil potential it would have happened by now
Blackman - an athlete but to inconsistent
Mersin - hasn't looked good enough
Arthur - not good enough
Yowarth - player with most potential but probably best for both he has fresh start .
Bawling - an athlete and honest as the day is long but lacks basic skill at this level
Tazbakhsh - not of the required standard.

Those 11 must account for a third or so of our wage bill so some room to maneuver. The big question is will Erin provide more funds to move us forward and should DD keep his job. He is very fortunate with the patience afforded him this season many manager s have lost their job with better records. Our form has been terrible since January 13 / 45 points available, 3 wins in 15 games , 1 win in 8 at home . whatever way you cut it its been unacceptable. For the large part the football has been dire ads well.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Despite his injuries Roberts is a must keep. He is our best attacking player.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep Morris and offer Lewis Young short extention (if hasnt already got one as he gices a *beep* unlike others) ditch the rest. Simples but most importantly sack the dummy.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ElTel wrote:
Everyone seems to love Young but he is just a makeshift fullback I'm sure he could do a better job further forward than the useless Enzio.


These are the two who combined superbly for our goal on Saturday. Brilliant play by both I would say.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

notso wrote:
ElTel wrote:
Everyone seems to love Young but he is just a makeshift fullback I'm sure he could do a better job further forward than the useless Enzio.


These are the two who combined superbly for our goal on Saturday. Brilliant play by both I would say.


And Clifford involved positively........

Who'd have thought, eh!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty sure Morris and Young are already signed along with McInerney, Connolly Smith Collins, Enzio, Cox ( I hope they get him fit) and Garnet and Lelan ( very poor signing on evidence so far)and Kaby.

Eleven under contract for 2017 /2018. They shouldn't let Drum my make any more signings until we see what happens in the last five games .
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crawley69 wrote:
A lot of the squad already have contracts for next season !

I would release all of the below the rest are already signed up other than Clifford who we should certainly retain.

Harold - two years injured
Payne - not fit or mobile enough aka Walton mark 2
Roberts - made of glass
Bantom - I am not sure he has even played for his loan club.
Henderson - 25 if he was going to fulfil potential it would have happened by now
Blackman - an athlete but to inconsistent
Mersin - hasn't looked good enough
Arthur - not good enough
Yowarth - player with most potential but probably best for both he has fresh start .
Bawling - an athlete and honest as the day is long but lacks basic skill at this level
Tazbakhsh - not of the required standard.


Agree with this. However Flapper had a 2 year deal so we are stuck unless we find a taker.

I would keep Payne as well.

Presumably Sanchez Watt has gone already?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we are going to do anything next year we need a stronger more mobile midfield .Kaby can get about but lacks physical presence . Clifford has the speed and mobility but is an inch taller than Kaby. Payne has some phyicality to him but is so slow the game goes round him.


That tall midfielder Frenchman who played for Orient would be an improvement. For us. Looked strong fit and had some skill and athleticisom.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ukredz wrote:
Despite his injuries Roberts is a must keep. He is our best attacking player.


Agree pure season and September he looked great but he hasnt registered a performance since Oct let alone a run of games. We signed him from Scottish premier team so suspect he is one of our top 10 earners.

He bareley played for his Scottish team in 2015 / 2016 , we just can't take the risk. I think he maybe. One of those footballers like Bantom who only delivers when everything is perfect , wheather, pitch and fitness.
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