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Tels
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 Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:16 pm Post subject: Ownership - Who Owns the club?
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With all the questions around "HK Paul" it raised a point inmy head around the Fit and Proper person checks the FA run. Surely this individual if he owns any part of the club has to have been registered and checked somewhat?
Would seem a simple Freedom of Information check by one of our journo colleagues may satisfy the desire for identification..? |
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ant
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| Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:27 pm Post subject:
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Doesn't need a journo - it's on the club website. As it has to be
http://www.crawleytownfc.com/c.....index.aspx
But we know the Carters want to sell, we know HK Paul is interested and has financially supported the club in the past with money. But in terms of ownership he isn't one of them |
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Dean Howell's Hairdresser
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| Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: Ownership - Who Owns the club?
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| Tels wrote: | With all the questions around "HK Paul" it raised a point inmy head around the Fit and Proper person checks the FA run. Surely this individual if he owns any part of the club has to have been registered and checked somewhat?
Would seem a simple Freedom of Information check by one of our journo colleagues may satisfy the desire for identification..? |
The current listed Directors are:
David L Pottinger (50% of shares)
Susan Carter (25% of shares)
Ian Carter (25% of shares)
Michael Dunford (Company Secretary)
See:
http://companycheck.co.uk/comp.....shareholde
This doesn't mean to say that they still have shares in or own the club. That information is much harder to find out.
The accounts up to 2013 give this information:
http://companycheck.co.uk/comp.....financials
They suggest at that time the club net worth is -860K |
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Tels
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But, don't the club have to show where the money comes from? Didnt some Premier League teams fall foul of "excessive" sponsorship deals which skewed the FFP issues?
Did I also read somewhere Dunford is Part Time only??? |
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Peter
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| Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: Ownership - Who Owns the club?
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| Dean Howell's Hairdresser wrote: | David L Pottinger (50% of shares)
Susan Carter (25% of shares)
Ian Carter (25% of shares)
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I would suggest that whilst DP is listed he is only in a "proxy" capacity. |
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Simon
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| Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:10 pm Post subject: Re: Ownership - Who Owns the club?
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| Peter wrote: | | Dean Howell's Hairdresser wrote: | David L Pottinger (50% of shares)
Susan Carter (25% of shares)
Ian Carter (25% of shares)
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I would suggest that whilst DP is listed he is only in a "proxy" capacity. |
You mean HKP is giving him the cash to put in. Interesting arrangement. |
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Crawley Tom
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| Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:16 pm Post subject:
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| Just wanna throw it out there but 'HK' Paul doesn't actually live in HK or is he Chinese |
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Crawley Dan
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| ant wrote: | | But we know the Carters want to sell, we know HK Paul is interested |
Is he? I had a meeting with Matt Turner, Dave Pottinger and Bruce Talbot not long ago before the Scunthorpe game and was told by Dave Pottinger that the 'far east consortium' were not interested in taking any control. |
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Red, Red & Red
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| Tels wrote: | But, don't the club have to show where the money comes from? Didnt some Premier League teams fall foul of "excessive" sponsorship deals which skewed the FFP issues?
Did I also read somewhere Dunford is Part Time only??? |
more like invisible oh and useless! |
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ant
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| Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:56 am Post subject:
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| Crawley Dan wrote: | | ant wrote: | | But we know the Carters want to sell, we know HK Paul is interested |
Is he? I had a meeting with Matt Turner, Dave Pottinger and Bruce Talbot not long ago before the Scunthorpe game and was told by Dave Pottinger that the 'far east consortium' were not interested in taking any control. |
taking control and owning the club are two different things. Clever use of words by the three you met |
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Dean Howell's Hairdresser
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| Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:53 am Post subject:
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The Carter's may want to sell but the club isn't worth anything.
Outgoings are surely greater than income. Unless you are rich, with money to burn and love football who would buy a football club? |
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lochislair
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| Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:07 am Post subject:
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| ant wrote: | | Crawley Dan wrote: | | ant wrote: | | But we know the Carters want to sell, we know HK Paul is interested |
Is he? I had a meeting with Matt Turner, Dave Pottinger and Bruce Talbot not long ago before the Scunthorpe game and was told by Dave Pottinger that the 'far east consortium' were not interested in taking any control. |
taking control and owning the club are two different things. Clever use of words by the three you met |
I do love the word "consortium." Can one bloke with deep pockets and a Midlands accent be described as such?  Perhaps he doesn't want to own the club though-apparently the internet isn't working too well in the Far East at present, his empire may well be losing money... |
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Ian
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| Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:02 pm Post subject:
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| lochislair wrote: | | I do love the word "consortium." Can one bloke with deep pockets and a Midlands accent be described as such? Perhaps he doesn't want to own the club though-apparently the internet isn't working too well in the Far East at present, his empire may well be losing money... |
I doubt he's in North Korea  |
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chippy minton
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| Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:16 pm Post subject: OWNERSHIP - WHO OWNS THE CLUB.
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This old adage springs to mind, - how do you make a million from owning a football club ?? start off with two million !!!
Exit stage left. |
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lochislair
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| Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:56 pm Post subject:
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| Ian wrote: | | lochislair wrote: | | I do love the word "consortium." Can one bloke with deep pockets and a Midlands accent be described as such? Perhaps he doesn't want to own the club though-apparently the internet isn't working too well in the Far East at present, his empire may well be losing money... |
I doubt he's in North Korea |
If all the staff at CTFC start appearing with the same haircut, then we'll know the truth! |
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